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MattW
Assistant Driver

USA
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  10:06:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bob Dylan quotes from NME (I think). I found them in two articles on http://www.ultimate-guitar.com

"I know there are groups at the top of the charts that are hailed as the saviours of rock'n'roll and all that, but they are amateurs.

"They don't know where the music comes from," he wrote, adding, “I wouldn't even think about playing music if I was born in these times... I'd probably turn to something like mathematics. That would interest me. Architecture would interest me. Something like that."

At first, this discouraged me, but then I thought it was like a call from Bob for people like us to form bands and write music, or just spread the good music that is overshadowed by the commercial shit. I'm pretty sure most people here feel the same way about popular music.

Another one:

He explains that he felt nothing in common with a generation that ordained him their voice. "The world was absurd...I had very little in common with and knew even less about a generation that I was supposed to be the voice of," he said.

I like this because I've been having some very negative thoughts about the world and it's like, someone has been there before and was still able to do something great.

interloper
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  11:04:43 AM  Show Profile  Send interloper a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I agree wholeheartedly with Bob.


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rocket
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  11:52:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I would write or play music no matter when I was born - whether it was back in the days of cavemen or 2 million years in the future. If it's in your heart - than it's in your heart.
Shame of Bob for saying such a thing - it makes him sound insincere - or that he wrote music just attempting to make a name for himself. And I'll be damned if someone is going to tell ME when it's an appropriate time is to be writting music - what a fucking hypocrite.
We all have negative thoughts about the world - and he is going to suggest that his negative thoughts were more valid than anyone from "these times". And for him to actually be so self involved to think he could have been the only person from his generation to have thoughts similar to his own is simply ludicrous!


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rocket
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  12:05:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

and another thing...
I would bet money that the band Dylan is specifically singleing out as supposedly being "saviors of rock'n'roll" is none other than the Strokes. Well, I read an article talking about how he sat in on a recording session of theirs and complimented them on ther musicianship saying it's not easy to play notes like that. - Now the spineless ass is going to criticize them behind their back after he compliments them to their face?
Pitiful.

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MattW
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  12:23:12 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That last part, I wrote, that wasn't Bob. Not that I don't have anything in common with anyone in my generation, I have people close to me that I am really in tune with. But alot of people I come in contact with are only interested in hurting people and having something to hold over others. This isn't really what I'm trying to say either. There's just alot of things going on in my life right now that I don't understand at all. Maybe the problem is me. I just posted that as it applies to music more than the human factors behind it.

And I don't think he's trying to tell people when it's appropriate to play or write music, just that he wouldn't in "these times" we live through.

As far as Bob being self-centered, egotistical, and sometimes an asshole, I can't defend him on that.
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MattW
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  12:35:11 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So, rocket, are you a Dylan fan? LOL.

I really just posted that becasue I liked it and it's kinda slow in here today.

I think he would like the Strokes.

I get a kick out of extremists. I am an extremist in many ways.
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rocket
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  1:02:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ha Ha - I like Dylan - I really do. I just think what he said there was lame. And I don't like anyone trying to tell me their feelings are more valid than mine. Or that the music of their generation more valid than mine.
See - I admittedly focus more on vocal tones and instrumentation than words. I liked Danzig - didn't mean I was into worshipping the Devil - ya know. Dylan was obviously about the words - never came up with an original guitar line that I heard. Very typical standard stuff. His quote of “I wouldn't even think about playing music if I was born in these times... I'd probably turn to something like mathematics. That would interest me. Architecture would interest me. Something like that." is interesting... is he saying he would just lay back and accept the world - not be upset with the reality we are stuck in? Or like what I said earlier?
Seems to me that the chart topers are historically pretty lame - whatever the time period is. There have always been bands getting less recognition that have 20 times the talent of a commercially successful band. But, that's not to say that good bands haven't ever made it. Look at the Who, Led Zeplin, Queens of the Stone Age, Beatles - shit the list can go on and on.
I was referring to "The world was absurd...I had very little in common with and knew even less about a generation that I was supposed to be the voice of," - when I wrote "And for him to actually be so self involved to think he could have been the only person from his generation to have thoughts similar to his own is simply ludicrous!"
I'm pretty sure he doesn't like the Strokes.
This is always an interesting topic to me - the whole commercialism / anti-commercialism way of the world.
I don't want to be put in either catagory because I never know until I judge for myself. Just like I can't claim Democrat, Republican or Liberal - because there are good and bad things about each...

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MattW
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  1:16:50 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Cool.

Have you ever seen the Dylan documentary "Don't Look Back?"
I remember before seeing it how my friends talked about it and loved it.
I loved it too, but I remember my exact words after the film ended,
"Man, Bob is an asshole."

And he really did set out to make a name for himself, but I admire him for that.
In the book "Down the Highway," friends and family often referred to him saying how he was going to be famous, a successful artist, etc. And he did it. I wish I could be more confident and just go for it with everything I've got like that. It's not easy.
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rocket
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  1:21:46 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

No I haven't - but, I should...

btw - tonight I finally get to watch Napolean Dynomite!

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MattW
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  1:33:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I heard Bob Dylan likes that movie. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Alright, Sorry.

I'm out of here 'til Monday.

Edited by - MattW on 02/18/2005 1:35:19 PM
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moenkopi46_2
Driving Instructor

USA
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  1:41:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rocket


No I haven't - but, I should...

btw - tonight I finally get to watch Napolean Dynomite!



Gosh!! Lucky!

( you'll get that later tonight)
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interloper
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  2:03:39 PM  Show Profile  Send interloper a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I think Bob's right on the money about what he said, and I can see why he would think that seeing as how he happened to live through and made major contributions to the time period that can safely be called the pinnacle of American popular culture. Historically, I don't find it difficult at all to see everything else as a pale by comparison. The truly out of the box thinkers and creators are rare if not completely non existant nowadays. The box itself has overtaken everything, and quite frankly, the hippies lost. As far as music specifically for example, there is an enourmous difference between knowing what it was like to experience Hendrix for the first time in 67, and hearing say, the Strokes in 02. Growthwise, it's the same as comparing the distance between here and the moon, to the distance between here and the other side of the room. Music back then was making a concious effort to take a leap beyond what was there before it. Nowadays, not only is no one doing anything that even remotely takes a step forward, it's seemingly kind of smiled upon to make nothing more than a successful collage of something that's gone on before (Lou Reed>The Strokes...Led Zeppelin>White Stripes...Joy Division>Interpol....The Sonics>The Hives). That's the standard now, and young kids have this ingrained in them. They don't know any different because they have no sense of musical history, and consequently, the individuality of the creative world has all but died. It only gets worse all the time.

I agree with Matt in that if anything, Bob's cynical quote is more of an attempt to make people hopefully realize that their concept or standards, if you will, of what is "new" or "fresh" or even "good" has been so completely minimized that it's hard to find any satisfaction when you know how good things can actually be.

As far as the world hoisting Bob up in the 60's as their spokesperson, put yourself in his shoes. I think it was nothing short of retarted how much cultural responsiblity they put on that guy back then. I don't think he was saying that he was better than anyone else, I think he was more saying that he wasn't anyone's frontline flag flyer nor did he ever ask to be. He was just some average guy who wrote really nice words. I think if he had felt like rallying people or trying to sway them in any way, being an intelligent person, he would have done something else with his life.

Opinions.


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moenkopi46_2
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  2:18:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are a few bands still pushing the bounds of pop culture. Tool continues to create incredibel albums and experiences, musically and visually, and I believe that once The Mars Volta's new album is out there, there greatness wil be solidified. Off course, these two bands have had the good fortune of finding labels that will let them create, without too many restraints.
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interloper
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  2:27:12 PM  Show Profile  Send interloper a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
So, if Mars Volta are doing new things, what's with the 1976 afro's, beards and bell bottoms?

Just kidding Moen.


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rocket
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  3:10:48 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know that's how you feel Interloper...
and I totally respect that...
and I partially agree with you.
But, I have a hard time believing somebody was more intensely struck by hearing Hendrix - than I was when I first heard Swervedriver!
The mere concept of that trivializes my experience...
Shit - even Hendrix took standard riffs - personalized them - and improved them in the way that only he could. Music, art, food - everything is a continuing circle of building and re-creating...
btw - the Strokes were fucked the first time some journalist said they were "saving rock and roll" - it's not their fault that was written about them... nor is it Sonic Youth or the Pixies fault that every new band of that style is compared to them... or that they are the chosen icons of that time (because they just built on things they new also) . so the Stokes or over blown - I don't give a shit. I think they are a great mid-paced band with a lot of quality riffs and ideas. I wouldn't call them ground breaking either...
Hendrix wasn't the first man with an afro - maybe we should make fun of him for using somebodies elses' fashion style?
If it seems like I'm angry - I'm not... I'm just really opinionated about this kind of thing.
To me - good music is good music is good music.
And, all of the bands mentioned in the ">" category have their fair share of riff looting like anyone else.

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Eugene
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  3:21:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit Eugene's Homepage  Click to see Eugene's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Well, it really depended on the time in which things occurred. So much that was then "new" in rock music occurred starting in 60s and then evolved, so it's really tough for any band to be totally original now. I think (feel free to tell me I'm wrong here) what Matt and Interloper were chiming on, was the lack of soul/conviction you might see in some of the newer bands/artists at the expense of greed/commercialization. Also I find this in more of the younger musicians nowadays, is lack of roots or knowledge thereof; shocking really. Yeah, the artistry part gets a back seat it seems. Back then, labels were more experimental and would take chances; it wasn't as much of a snatch n' grab game as it surely is now. When everthing hasn't already been "done", the road is wide open, as it was then, so anything new that was good in quality defined a new style. But that being said...Hendrix was a phenomenon, and still is. I am constantly amazed at how age transcendent his music is. Young and old still identify him as the man, especially guitar players of all genres...he wasn't necessarily technically the best player, but to my ears, the most musical and inspiring.

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interloper
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  4:08:08 PM  Show Profile  Send interloper a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I definately agree that good music is good music period. And yes, everyone in the world steals something. I think that real talent however lies in being able to mix and distill everything you're influenced by into your own thing. There's a fine line between that, and sounding exactly like those very influences. I was stunned too when I first heard Swervedriver, they found an amazing spot that hadn't been occupied and they're by far my favorite, but musically, it's not a big leap. That's not a bad thing either. The White Stripes and the Hives both rock my pants equally, even though they seem obvious to me (that little Strokes dude however sounds like Glenn Danzig as an eight year old....har har, couldn't resist), so I take no hard line stance as it would be full of holes.

I just think we live in a nostalgia obsessed culture. Born probably out of a certain degree of escapism, and a flat out lack of ideas.


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Eugene
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  7:27:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit Eugene's Homepage  Click to see Eugene's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
Elegantly and succinctly put...I couldn't agree more.

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rocket
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Posted - 02/19/2005 :  08:38:49 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I know.. I know - I agree with a lot of what you all are saying - I really do.
I just don't find the music industry to be so black and white.
I mean - there is a ton of greed and fakes in the business - but, as much of that as there is - there is also that much genuinely original and incredible work - full of compassion/conviction. It's simple mathematics - like compound interest...
There are more people in the world - more easily accessible musical recording equipment... - so, there will obviously be more hack musicians.
We live in the information age.
It just makes me sad for you guys to have such an extreme lack of faith in today’s music.
For example... I see it more as QOTSA > Sabbath, Ride > Byrds (sorry Eugene - just trying' to make a point here) - and it all has to do with building and personalizing upon music history.
You're in denial if you don't think older bands built upon what was already there...
And your view of past record labels is awfully romanticized - I liken it to a fisherman’s BIG FISH story. Back then it was this great... now it's was THIS GREAT. They ruined careers and supported shitty acts just like some do now. Thank god for labels like Creation right?!
And times are shitty now - but, let's face it guys - we aren’t being drafted like in Vietnam - let's keep things in perspective. Imagine how scary and pissed we would have been back then...
I feel - the general society has always been obsessed with nostalgia.
Things were always better "back in the day"...
Almost daily I am learning about New bands that truly blow me away
But, you can't preach the superiority of tube amps and past styles and then condemn a new band for choosing that route.

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moenkopi46_2
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Posted - 02/19/2005 :  2:20:08 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm gonna get steam rolled for this, but music today kicks the holy hell out of music 40 years ago. I know there's some Who fans on here, (sorry Rocket) but they wrote a concept album about a retarded kid playing pinball. Bob Dylan would've been better off writing his poetry, so we didn't have to listen to that voice, and robert Plant is responsible for these lyrics:
Oh oh oh oh oh oh
You don't have to go oh oh oh oh oh
You don't have to go oh oh oh oh oh
Baby please don't go.

Ay ay ay ay ay ay
All those tears I cry ay ay ay ay ay
All those tears I cry ay ay ay ay ay
Baby please don't go.

*CHORUS

When I read the letter you wrote, it made me mad mad mad
When I read the news that it brought me, t made me sad sad sad.
But I still love you so, I can't let you go
I love you- ooh baby I love you.

Oh oh oh oh oh oh
Every breath I take oh oh oh oh oh
Every move I make oh oh oh oh oh
Baby please don't go.

Ay ay ay ay ay ay
You hurt me to my soul ay ay ay ay ay
You hurt me to my soul ay ay ay ay ay
Darling please don't go.

CHORUS
Oh oh oh oh oh oh
You don't have to go oh oh oh oh oh
You don't have to go oh oh oh oh oh
(Baby please don't go)

There are so many artists who can get their voice out there now, that probably wouldn't have had the chance in the past, with the ease of production at home, and the many outlets on the Internet.
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crozarey
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Posted - 02/20/2005 :  12:46:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i like new music, old stuff may well be great but theres enough new stuff to satisfy me. I dont have time to look too far back.

While reading this thread I kept thinking of the scene of christian slater's character in Pump Up The Volume when he talked about how all the good things have already been done.... here is part of it:
Mark Hunter: "All the great themes have been used up and turned into theme parks." Thats not the lead singer from Dragon either.

Eclecticity is creativity these days, deal with it and move on.

"If all else fails, X equals 8" Alex P Keaton
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interloper
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Posted - 02/20/2005 :  07:26:27 AM  Show Profile  Send interloper a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Specific lyrical prowess was not my point. Nor was directly comparing today with yesterday. How good music is based in context with it's historical surrounding circumstances was what I was talking about. We live in the age of serious complacency and ease, and I think the music reflects that. That's all. Seems to me, the best art is always created under conditions of serious duress anyway. (Reagan made for some incredibly honest and cathartic punk rock). Trails to be blazed should be considered endless, and I just don't feel like that's a popular viewpoint anymore. The words "everything's been done" seem to me to be both all too frequently stated, and absolutely stifling. Again fellas, just opinions. I think we'll agree to disagree and leave it at that. You guys all rule so I'm not going to engage in anything remotely beyond a discussion. (not that anyone is taking it there at all).

And I agree with Moen in that Dylan bums me out. He is a lyrical terrorist, but his complete lack of any real musical sonic attack is his eternal downfall. And yes, rock opera's are a gay. Who's next rules however.


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whitewatersky
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Posted - 02/20/2005 :  3:32:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit whitewatersky's Homepage  Reply with Quote
D R A G O N ! ! !

take me to the April sun in Cuba !

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rocket
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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  07:53:21 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just hope all my WAB comps haven't been getting turned into frisbees or beer coasters...
THAT'S my main concern.

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interloper
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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  09:14:23 AM  Show Profile  Send interloper a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Absolutely not Rocket. I check everything out. Whether I get around to critiquing them is another issue. I've actually been checking out this new Mars Volta LP. I dig what they're doing. It's a bit too dense for my tastes, and they owe footrubs to all 70's prog rock bands, but damn good nontheless.


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drmcd
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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  10:11:59 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Yeah yeah, everyone's a critic

Dylan was so scared of his own name, he changed it. Somehow that doesn't seem to be very representative of a "voice of a generation". And that's what automatically indicts Dylan from day one as just another pop icon, and his "wisdom" should be treated as such.

There's a phrase I locked onto a long time ago, concerning television (paraphrased here): "TV doesn't bring programming to people - TV brings people to the commercials". After reading this thread, I'm wondering about the adaptability of this phrase to music (and not just pop music).

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rocket
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btw guys - Napoleon Dynamite was freakin' hilarious!

if you haven't seen it - watch it. My wife didn't really like it - she thought it was too mean spirited. I'm tired of everything being so "politically correct" though... some things are just funny.
If you get the DVD - you can watch the short film that the director did back in film school that is kind of the entire movie condensed into 20 minutes - it was great too.

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Melwas
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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  12:13:57 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
hmm

the dvd isn't out over here yet.

April 25th we have to wait to!
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Tom
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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  12:46:09 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by interloper

Specific lyrical prowess was not my point. Nor was directly comparing today with yesterday. How good music is based in context with it's historical surrounding circumstances was what I was talking about. We live in the age of serious complacency and ease, and I think the music reflects that. That's all. Seems to me, the best art is always created under conditions of serious duress anyway. (Reagan made for some incredibly honest and cathartic punk rock).
And I agree with Moen in that Dylan bums me out. He is a lyrical terrorist, but his complete lack of any real musical sonic attack is his eternal downfall. And yes, rock opera's are a gay. Who's next rules however.



Speaking of context, the 60s had Vietnam, and the hippies and social uprising, and I think that the era has been glamourized for all of those things. But don't you think that what is happening in the world today makes just as violent and dramatic a back-drop for song writing? It seems to me that people are just in denial these days. Things are just as bad as ever, but people most people stopped wanting to write music about it, or at least stopped wanting to hear it... Now popular music is more about escape and avoidance of issues. Thus the preponderance of vacuous fluffy pop today (which I actually like when I am in the right mood :-)

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moenkopi46_2
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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  1:00:33 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I bet Bob could've written the best album ever during the black plague, or the Spanish Inqusition?
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interloper
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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  3:17:22 PM  Show Profile  Send interloper a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I quit.


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Eugene
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Posted - 02/21/2005 :  5:33:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Eugene's Homepage  Click to see Eugene's MSN Messenger address  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moenkopi46_2

I'm gonna get steam rolled for this, but music today kicks the holy hell out of music 40 years ago. I know there's some Who fans on here, (sorry Rocket) but they wrote a concept album about a retarded kid playing pinball. Bob Dylan would've been better off writing his poetry, so we didn't have to listen to that voice, and robert Plant is responsible for these lyrics:
Oh oh oh oh oh oh
You don't have to go oh oh oh oh oh
You don't have to go oh oh oh oh oh
Baby please don't go.

Ay ay ay ay ay ay
All those tears I cry ay ay ay ay ay
All those tears I cry ay ay ay ay ay
Baby please don't go.

*CHORUS

When I read the letter you wrote, it made me mad mad mad
When I read the news that it brought me, t made me sad sad sad.
But I still love you so, I can't let you go
I love you- ooh baby I love you.

Oh oh oh oh oh oh
Every breath I take oh oh oh oh oh
Every move I make oh oh oh oh oh
Baby please don't go.

Ay ay ay ay ay ay
You hurt me to my soul ay ay ay ay ay
You hurt me to my soul ay ay ay ay ay
Darling please don't go.

CHORUS
Oh oh oh oh oh oh
You don't have to go oh oh oh oh oh
You don't have to go oh oh oh oh oh
(Baby please don't go)

There are so many artists who can get their voice out there now, that probably wouldn't have had the chance in the past, with the ease of production at home, and the many outlets on the Internet.



No, no...it really was better (quality) back then. But, as you state there is more now. No, it doesn't touch me/reach me now as much, but I still love great music; when it happened doesn't matter much to me. Sometimes less is more...and...now here's the clincher..today will be old stuff 40 years from now. You really (maybe you already have), need to hear a good version of the Bach Cello concertos. I can send...very transcendent.

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rocket
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Posted - 02/22/2005 :  09:02:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't you guys have a hard time believing a '75 Chevet will EVER be as classic as a '57 Chevy!

Look what technology has done for animation - damn! Do you think the guys that created "Betty Boop" ever could have even imagined the greatness of "Finding Nemo"?

Fashion is another example of art that has been taking a retro approach for a few years - but, it's still done with a modern spin.

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Edited by - rocket on 02/22/2005 09:05:44 AM
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MattW
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Posted - 02/22/2005 :  09:39:06 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I get a boner from Betty Boop. Finding Nemo doesn't get me hard.
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MattW
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Posted - 02/22/2005 :  09:41:30 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Why do I feel I should apologize every time I say something?
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jamesg
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Posted - 02/22/2005 :  09:48:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lmao!
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rocket
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Posted - 02/22/2005 :  3:15:21 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
doh!
damn - that goes perfect with the whole quality verse slick production argument also...
I knew I should have picked mickey freakin mouse...
...although Finding Nemo really is brilliant:

It's hard to beat a boner

or is it
a boner is hard to beat
or
please beat my hard boner...

I've gotten side tracked...
So... Porn has gotten better. dontcha think?
...speaking of slick production.

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Edited by - rocket on 02/22/2005 3:18:36 PM
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crozarey
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Posted - 02/23/2005 :  12:26:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
*enter Scott In Maine*

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